Episode 4: Behind The Conversation

What do MLK JR. and Tom Brady have in common? Stay tuned for this bonus episode and find out.

This week you’ll get a sneak peek into the process that Chelsea and I go through as we prepared for the regular episodes. It’s a little messy, more of free-flow. But we invite you to witness how we wrestle and struggle with Scripture and what it means for us in our everyday lives.

In this episode you’ll hear more of the story of Nicodemus that we discuss in the episode on Ash Wednesday. If you haven’t checked it out, please do so.

You’ll also hear us reference the famous Scripture passage, John 3:16. It’s not wrapped up in a tidy little bow, but we hope you’ll enjoy it.


As always, this content is available in your favorite podcast app, or on our YouTube channel.

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